"Bird" (Bird)
03/23/2014 at 14:27 • Filed to: None
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"Bird" (Bird)
03/23/2014 at 14:27 • Filed to: None | 1
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California has a long, rich, car culture. We need to find a way to support it far into the future. Most of the time the intent is not to have a daily driver which may pollute heavily. You want a weekend fun car. How much do you really pollute driving your toy a few thousand miles a year? We need something similar to the SB100 that the kit car guys have. I think a few simple limitations on the registration would help validate it's intent to non car-guy voters.
Make the first requirement that you have another car, on a normal registration. Have an initial sign up period to allow people with illegal/improperly registered cars to legalize them, then each year limit the number of new cars licensed to a few hundred. Tack on a special registration fee that would go into a general fund for some civic minded project like State Park roadside beautification, and impose simple smog restrictions. Make it so that any smog test station can perform the test. Make it include just a few basic things like functioning EVAP system, and sealed gas cap. Make all cars pass a basic dyno tailpipe sniffer test at a couple different RPMS. Set the smog levels at a given level for every year. As long as you can meet the requirements of the test, you are ok for smog testing.
I really think it might work…
Right now it's absurd. You need to send your grey market import from Japan (which had their own emmisions standards in 1989…) to a lab to be tested as if you were a manufacturer trying to import it…even though that engine was sold here in a different car…absurd.
*This is a repost of a comment I made on the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .
Svend
> Bird
03/23/2014 at 14:51 |
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In the U.K. We have classic car registration where there is dispensation for limiting the number of miles per year and reduced insurance. If you want to do more you can, but you pay for it. Also after a certain year (I can't remember off the top of my head) you don't pay road tax or rather Vehicle Excise Duty here in the U.K. And the inspection isn't as strict as newer vehicles.
JasonStern911
> Bird
03/23/2014 at 15:08 |
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simple solution - move to Nevada. we have an awesome classic car program where any car at least 25 years old can be emission exempt if it is driven less than 5,000 miles a year.
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Bird
> Svend
03/23/2014 at 15:09 |
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A lot of states here have similar options. California just sucks.
People here generally tend to dislike mileage limits, even though most people stay well within them. Everybody dreams of driving around the US, so they want to keep the option open...lol.
Some collector car insurance companies here use the 'other car on normal registration/insurance' requirement. That's why I proposed that instead of mileage. I don't know of any programs here where you can pat more to get more miles though. That might be a good option.
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Bird
> JasonStern911
03/23/2014 at 15:12 |
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Well, I'm kind of doing that. I'm moving to Kentucky to open a business...they have easy registration requirements (no need for collector registration at all...), and I have family there.
I really wish I was able to stay here though. California is just not friendly to car guys or business really...
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JasonStern911
> Bird
03/23/2014 at 15:24 |
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ultimately, I can't blame California. look at the smog problems in China. while CARB makes some stupid, nonsensical rules some times, it's better than having no rules...
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Bird
> JasonStern911
03/23/2014 at 15:53 |
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Oh you're right. California, and Los Angeles specifically, needed the strict air controls CARB has put forward. However I feel car enthusiasts got swept away with the gross polluters.
I commute the 405 every day, so trust me, the last thing I want is to be out there with a bunch of smog belching cars. Actually, I prefer public transit...gives me more time to read car magazines...
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Svend
> Bird
03/23/2014 at 19:55 |
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For some reason I really can't get my head around the fact that each state can be so different that each state is almost a different country. We have different laws for England & Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland but many are only a very subtle variation of the others. I won't pretend I know all the laws of the U.S. But there seems to be a very substantial amount of variations on vehicles licencing and registration and even the regulations and requirements for an individual to obtain a drivers licence.
I really cany get my head round it.
There are other laws but I won't go into it.